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greetings citizens and welcome to

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unknown I'm Jason McClellan thanks for

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hanging out with me my guest today is

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Heidi GAD Heidi is an enthusiast of all

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things strange as we all are at rogue

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planets

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she's hosted radio shows focused on the

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UFO topic which she recently announced

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that having left the Phoenix airwaves

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she's launching a new UFO project I've

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been anxious to hear all about this new

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UFO project of yours Heidi and what

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better way to learn about it then in an

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interview right so welcome to the show

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thanks for having me I'm super excited

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well you know I know

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that's what I'm excited to hear about

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but we can talk about some other things

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first so I guess we'll start at our

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beginning and I was first introduced to

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you at you know what what better fitting

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place and a UFO conference of the

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International UFO conference right you

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were you were I don't remember if you

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were a volunteer the first year that I

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met you um I was just kind of there with

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I was doing a different radio show at

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the time was called aliens with gas that

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morphed into the mothership radio show

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and you know I know Alejandro like

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everyone else and I was just they're

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just kind of like helping out where I

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could and then the second year

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laughs this past year 2018 I was there

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again and this time I was you know

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helping out a little more I helped set

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up and stuff like that but it's one of

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my favorite events ever is the

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International UFO Congress I wish it

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could be every month really that way

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that would be a little intense but I

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understand where you're coming from yes

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I I sort of secretly wish that happened

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to I guess before I actually met you I

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knew of you because of the radio show

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that you were doing at the time alien

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with aliens with gas and even prior to

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that and and it's because of our mutual

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acquaintances Danny Torgerson who is

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arizona-based musician Zini fellow and

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and and UFO enthusiast as well so I know

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yes he was quite a quite a regular on

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your various shows yes yeah he is

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hilarious and he is so into the subject

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and also an incredible musician because

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I'm in I'm in the musician myself so I

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like to hang out with musicians that

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like you know paranormal things yeah

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absolutely

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and you know that's speaking to to

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Danny's musical abilities

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I was certainly impressed by his of his

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musical abilities his insanely musical

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talent at the tender age of 14 that's

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the first time I saw Danny first time I

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yeah first time I had seen him perform

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and you know right away I knew that that

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he was special and probably the most

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insanely talented musician I'd ever met

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at 14 and you know watched him grow over

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the years and help nurture nurture his

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band and you know we all became friends

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and remained friends to this day so I I

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had the pleasure of watching little

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Danny grow up and blossom into the

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musical mad genius that he is he's gonna

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love hearing that he's a funny guy he

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really is and I love his energy at the

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International UFO Congress I mean that

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that I think is his happy place - yeah

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it's all of our happy places so before

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we get into to hearing about your your

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new endeavor tell me a little bit about

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aliens with gas how long did that go

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what was that and just kind of talk

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about that experience so that was a

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really great experience i kevin and i

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he's a pretty well-known radio

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personality very talented at what he

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does and he just I was going in one day

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to promote a nother show I was doing was

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at Tempe Center for the Arts with a

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taiko drummer and he was like hey you're

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in aliens I always wanted to talk about

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that on a show and so I was like yeah

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cool let's you know talk about it and so

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we did and we hit it off and then I just

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became a co-host with him on aliens with

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gasps and then we morphed that we

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changed the name into the mothership

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radio show and you know it was going

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really well but then we ended up having

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some creative differences so that's

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pretty much why I'm not doing that

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anymore

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and I'd always wanted to do a show that

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was more visual where I could get more

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into the video and just more into my

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weird of what I see in my head because

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you you know like you see weird stuff in

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your head and you want to try to put it

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down and I'm not very good at physically

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drawing but I can manipulate digital

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media so that's pretty much where I am

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today with this you're speaking my

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language I totally understand that

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that's how my brain works and all right

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yeah jump right into it you you recently

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announced that you've got got a new UFO

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a project that's coming out soon so go

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ahead and jump into it so it's called

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aliens and beyond and the premise of

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this show is really education like I

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want to grab the younger audience and

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get them involved in this entire scene

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and even the older audience too and what

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I'm really trying to do is put that

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educational factor on it so people who

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maybe hear things and are like I'm not

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really sure what they're talking about

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but that sounds like really interesting

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because you know all of us that are into

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it like when we're talking back and

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forth we know what we're talking about

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but somebody who doesn't know those

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things they they don't know what we're

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talking about they don't know what

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definitions are of these you know

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shortened versions of words we have

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abbreviations for things and so that's

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pretty much the route I'm going with

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this and you know because I love talking

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about weird

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of course I think that's a really

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important important thing to to talk

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about you know the educational aspect

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and the fact that many you know people

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who give presentations at conferences

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about UFOs tend to forget that not

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everybody in the audience is somebody

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who studies UFOs you know they're not

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familiar with all of the things that you

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know we might take for granted or that

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we assume that everybody knows obviously

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everybody knows who Travis Walton is you

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know just little things that seem like

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no brainers to us we feel like we're

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talking amongst our people you know so

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we'll forget that there are people from

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the general public in audiences at

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conferences and you can't always assume

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that everybody knows all of the little

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things that we talk about in every

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conversation that we have so I agree

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with you and that's that's where my

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passions lie is like trying to step back

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and focusing on the general public and

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trying to do the education and ignite

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that spark and get people curious enough

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to then go and look into it further on

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their own exactly because it takes a

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village and if we're gonna get anywhere

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with this movement and just getting

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people on board with the information

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that we want from the powers that be

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that have it we need everybody to really

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recognize what is going on because there

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is something going on right right now so

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aliens and beyond what is the what's the

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general format of the show how is it

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going to be delivered is it video is it

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audio what is it so for the most part

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it's gonna be available as a YouTube

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channel and then I am going to be

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putting it up as a podcast perfect now

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it's not going to be as cool as a

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podcast because you can't see all the

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weird stuff that I do with the video but

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for those that you know maybe don't want

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to watch a video they can at least go

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there go to the podcast and listen you

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know I love that and there's definitely

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you know separate audiences for those

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things and having the visual element on

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element already and I love it

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thank you that's definitely something

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that you know while you're doing the

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show you you also sort of mention here

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and there to encourage those just

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listening on the audio podcast to check

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out the video show because they get the

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sense they're missing something right

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yeah because I'm gonna have you know my

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weird graphics and you know maps and all

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kinds of just whatever pops in my head

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like I equate it to remember that old

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show Ally McBeal how she would be I

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don't know if you ever saw it she was a

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lawyer but she how she would have these

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scenarios play out well she was like

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watching something oh yeah

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like that's how I equate my life to

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that's gonna put it on video because

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I've discovered my love of the green

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screen and oh my gosh if I think anybody

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who has a creative side to them if you

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can get a green screen and start

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experimenting with this stuff you will

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just you'll just be so excited and happy

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and you'll be able to get your stuff out

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you know almost a dangerous scary

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thought create a woman who's discovered

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the power of green screen I'm excited

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and terrified at the same time it's

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gonna be fine

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that's so great out on this show do you

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have a co-host as well yes mace Byers

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and he and I have actually been friends

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for over 25 years

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you know since since I was born and he's

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a musician he's actually a bass player

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he's a very well-known musician he was

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in that band gray days which was the

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lead singer from Linkin Park's first

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project here in Phoenix Arizona and he's

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you know he's done a lot he actually was

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also in a band called the zeros and they

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wrote the original Howard Stern theme

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song so I encourage everyone to go check

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that he'll probably kill me for saying

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this he's not in the room right now but

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I definitely encourage everyone to

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look up the original Howard Stern theme

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song because it's a it's pretty comical

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that is super awesome it's it's like

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super 80s and he was just a baby and

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it's pretty good okay fantastic so you

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know he's a he's always been super into

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the whole subject and we've been

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roommates like five times and where it

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would always be up late talking about

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weird stuff and our roommates would be

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like you guys are so weird we're like

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yeah we know and we just get along so

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well on our chemistry is so natural that

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you know I was like hey man let's do

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this and he was like yeah let's do this

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I want to do it so with that background

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in history you must have great chemistry

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so that's that's exciting right off the

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bat knowing that you two have that yeah

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cuz it's not gonna be like a bunch of

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stuffy people like oh uh you know not

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that all shows are like that but you

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know I just wanted to bring something

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really fun and fresh and exciting really

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so people just can get interested and

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understand that they can talk about this

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stuff and that they can ask questions

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too is the other thing because a lot of

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times I get all these people that always

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message me or call me and ask me like

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for instance Heidi what is this whole

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you way P thing what is a you a P and

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I'm actually you know I'll be doing a

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bit about that on this week's show and

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it's just that whole element of people

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just not know going and even mace wasn't

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aware of it you know and he's into it so

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it's all these things I'm just really

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excited to give to the people really

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that's really cool and you mentioned

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that he's a musician you're a musician

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isn't it fascinating how so many people

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interested in UFOs tend to be musicians

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right it's like a creative thing does

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that mean Jason seriously well it's

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certainly been a topic that has been

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brought up so many times over the years

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and you know I being uh I don't call

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myself a musician I'm a hobbyist but I

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was certainly in the music

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industry in the business side for many

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years and you know I love surrounding

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myself with musicians and so that's

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being somebody who gravitates toward

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musicians has definitely you know paid

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strong attention to that and noticed

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that over the years as I've researched

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UFOs and the the answer that I've come

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up with it satisfies myself is that like

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you mentioned you know musicians are

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creative people and you know I think the

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brain of creative people works a little

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differently and is always looking at

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sort of looking at the at the world and

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the things in the world differently and

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and creatively and sort of

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deconstructing them and and wondering

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about other possibilities and and I

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think a big part of it for a lot of the

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people I've talked to you also as

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traveling musicians you know they they

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spend more time on the road so they have

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more free time to read books you know to

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think about the larger things in life to

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see things out their van window as

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they're traveling down the road driving

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across America lots of lots of reasons

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for for why you know it could be that

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they just have more time because they're

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living the starving artist's life right

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and that's so true about the traveling I

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toured at one point with a musician

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called Saul Williams he's a poet slam

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poetry actor he puts out records and you

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know be like there was this one night I

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don't even remember what state we were

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and I think it was like up north like

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Montana and we're Wyoming somewhere

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driving through there and I saw a UFO

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out the window but everyone was asleep

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except the driver and the driver was

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just like I don't want to like shut up I

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don't want to hear about it right dude

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stop right now look yeah you know so

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yeah there's always that that time and

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when you're out there and you can see

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all the stars and the city lights aren't

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you know right there to screw everything

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up it's it's so awesome to realize that

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we are just like this such a small part

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of this entire puzzle in this whole

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thing yeah you're you're primarily a

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violin violin player yes yeah I'm

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a violinist classically trained and then

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I'm also an electric violinist so I I

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rigged up a whole bunch of effects

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pedals and it does not even sound like a

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violin sometimes I always tell when it's

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you haven't heard something I've done

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that when I do like my solo work it kind

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of sounds like a live horror film

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soundtrack oh but I can do I could play

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with rock bands I can play metal I've

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played hip-hop I played Irish music you

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name it and I've done it and that's one

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thing that we're bringing into the show

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too is Mesa and I are writing all of the

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music yes so we're gonna have you know

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certain little jingles that we'll use

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for certain segments and then we're just

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gonna write music all the time it's like

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a way for us to almost score a film

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every time we do this that is rad that's

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a cool unique element to the show

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awesome thank you we think so too we're

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really happy to be able to do that and

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ironically us knowing each other for

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this long we have never written music

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together until just like the last two

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months we're like why haven't we been

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doing this the whole time no it sounds

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like the perfect project for you guys

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yeah we're yeah I think so too and a lot

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of people are really excited about it

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and so I I just really hope I can

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deliver thinking about your violin and

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you're like awesome futuristic electric

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violin it's the complete opposite of

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like what I was used to dealing with I a

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New York performance organization music

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performance organization in New York for

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three years and it was early music all

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period music but you know baroque

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Renaissance medieval classical too they

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played period instruments so that is

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just like complete opposite thinking

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about electric instruments that was like

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no no and these were like

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very much period instruments I mean you

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know a lot of the instruments were were

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very old wood instruments the trombones

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weren't even trombones they were called

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sack butts I just like saying that

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because sack bud is a hilarious word so

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there's only a few times in your life

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you get to use that word in a sentence

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right that's right

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at least properly find other variations

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I'm sure but all sorts of bad early

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music jokes but that's pretty cool so

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tell me a little more about your your

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origin into this whole field yeah I know

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everybody has a interest in some way to

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the topic of UFOs UFOs and

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extraterrestrials you already mentioned

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a sighting you had on tour but what

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really got you interested into UFOs and

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extraterrestrials so when I was a young

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child my family we actually lived so for

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those of you who are familiar with the

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Phoenix area there's a mountain here

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called superstition mountains and we my

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family my mom and dad were like super

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hippy so we like lived in this weird

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little commune like out by the base of

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the mountains and I lived there until I

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was school-age and there were times

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where I would see stuff outside at night

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because I used to just be like allowed

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to like go and sit outside be like three

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four or five years old and I know I like

427
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seems kind of like dangerous now that

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I'm talking about it especially having a

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small child and there you know there's

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just a lot of really odd things I saw my

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parents were very open about the things

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that are different you know they weren't

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they weren't like oh you have to conform

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to this one way of thinking you know

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think outside the box so you know I

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there were times I see like really like

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heavy lights and even at nighttime I

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remember there were big lights coming in

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through our window I don't know if I am

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an experienced or I've talked about this

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before on the other show I was on I

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really have no idea but I have witnessed

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so many things over the

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years and not just on the UFO side but

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also on the paranormal side of ghosts

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and things like this I have seen

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poltergeist activity I've seen orbs I've

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caught this stuff on film and I've just

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always just you know seeing these things

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and been interested in it and when I was

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like seven eight years old I would be

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going to the library and checking out

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all these books on the subject my first

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ones were all on the UFO subject and the

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librarian would be looking at me like

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are you serious you should be reading

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like the Redford you know the big what

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was that dog's name the big red Clifford

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Clifford Clifford the Big Red Dog

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you should be reading this stuff and dr.

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Seuss and I'm like well I do but I

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really want to you know read this stuff

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and she's just like shake her head at me

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and give my parents like an even

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stranger look and I just it's always

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it's just something that's been inside

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of me for my entire life

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and I've you know talked to people like

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you and all the other mounts of

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researchers out there and I just I can't

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stop it's a strange addiction I have but

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that's pretty much how I got into it and

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you know my people growing up just like

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everyone else who's in the field we had

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all those instances where they were like

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why are you looking into this like what

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is going on with you and they you know

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would kind of ridicule me a little bit

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here and there but I got thick skin so I

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just feel like whatever you'll see one

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day and isn't it interesting more times

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than not that after that little bit of

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ridicule that little bit of you know

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laughing stops you find out that they're

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actually interested right like they have

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a story to share - yeah why do people do

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that why can't they just be like you

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know normal and no it's non-sarcastic

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it's the defense mechanism you know

490
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that's that's the the stigma that still

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exists you know and we've we've grown up

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knowing that that exists

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so the natural response the default

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response is to laugh or joke about it

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until you find out somebody's taking it

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serious they're not going to make fun of

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you then you can let your guard down

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right yeah and that's what I really want

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to promote with the show too that I'm

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doing aliens and beyond aliens and

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beyond I don't even know why he came up

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with that name but it just worked so you

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know it's very descriptive

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you know what the show is about exactly

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because I was a thing as I was like I'm

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not sure I want to definitely only talk

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about extraterrestrials because there's

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just you know I don't know if it's all

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related you know it's there's so much we

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don't know right and like you said your

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interest go beyond just UFOs and

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extraterrestrials as do mine you know

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we're fellow fellow strangers you know

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we we like the strange and we like

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exploring the strange so I get it yeah

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all right there's great what's out there

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oh yeah no that's it's a big community

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for sure yeah

519
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so when does aliens beyond start how do

520
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you have a plan for how how frequent the

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show is going to come out so our goal is

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to do it once a week yeah that's a loose

523
00:24:07,740 --> 00:24:03,039
thing right now we're actually filming

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our full episode today so depending on

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how long it actually takes me to put the

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whole thing together because I want it

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to be very pro it you know it might be

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every other week at first and then as we

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kind of get into the rhythm we would

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love to do it every week because there's

531
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so much information out there and I have

532
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so much to talk about

533
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that's exciting yeah so that's what

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we're hoping at least all right where

535
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can people go to watch and/or listen to

536
00:24:43,610 --> 00:24:41,110
this fantastic show so it's real easy

537
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:43,620
everybody it's aliens and Beyond

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anywhere

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00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:48,260
you could go to the YouTube channel

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aliens and beyond we've got a Facebook

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page we've got Twitter we've got

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Instagram

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I got SoundCloud I do have a website but

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it has nothing up on it yet but

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hopefully by the time the show airs I'll

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be something up there because this

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project really just began about a week

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and a half ago yeah you're full steam

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ahead that's awesome I am don't mess

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around no I don't I get it you get the

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idea in your head and you want it out

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yeah it has to get out of here otherwise

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it's gonna like make me grow something

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weird on my face or something but yeah

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so you guys could just find anywhere I

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recommend going to the YouTube channel

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and subscribing please and it sounds

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like that's gonna be the preferred way

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to consume this show being that the

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visuals sounds so enticing yes yes

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excellent well Heidi thank you so much

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for taking the time to talk with me

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today I am so excited you have no idea

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how much it's been bugging me not

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bugging me but just like I've been so

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amped to talk to you about this because

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as soon as I saw you post about this I

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go oh that sounds awesome thank you man

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that reads a lot I'm super excited yeah

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I wish you the best of luck I'm happy to

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help in any way I can

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and yeah wishing you all the luck I

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can't wait to become a big fan of this

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show awesome thanks Jason you're awesome

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[Music]

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another big thank you to Heidi for

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hanging out today to tell us more about

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her new UFO project I know I'm looking

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forward to seeing the end result well

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June is rapidly approaching and as we

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previously announced Maureen Elsberry

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and I will be hosting a couple panels at

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Denver Comic Con again this year one is

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about UFOs in pop culture and the other

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is about government paranormal

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investigations the schedule is just

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coming out now so we'll have more

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specifics soon but Denver Comic Con

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takes place the weekend of June 15 more

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information about the event as a whole

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is that Denver Comic Con calm for the

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millions of you who are huge fans of

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this show have you checked out the rogue

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planet story yet you can buy your very

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own unknown shirt just go to store dot

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rogue planet TV and check out what we

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have available and we're adding new

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stuff all the time

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ro Planet TV is our website that's where

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you'll find this show as well of all

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sorts of other strange content unknown

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is available on Apple podcasts and other

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usual podcast locations too so if you

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like the show subscribe and leave a

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review if you feel so inclined thanks so

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much for hanging out with me today I'm

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Jason McClellan do me a favor friends